The CIRS Group Podcast
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness. Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.
Episodes

Feb 25, 2026
Feb 25, 2026
23 min
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Jacie and Barbara discuss how CIRS commonly affects body weight: often causing weight gain and resistance to fat loss, though some people experience extreme weight loss. They'll dig into why weight changes are driven by chronic, multi-system inflammation from biotoxin exposure (such as mold or Lyme), impacting hormones, metabolism, detox pathways, the brain, and the nervous system. It’s not simply “calories in, calories out,” and listeners are encouraged to stop blaming themselves. Key contributors to weight gain include elevated cortisol, hormone disruption (leptin resistance, insulin resistance, altered thyroid signaling even with normal labs, and sex hormone imbalance), nervous system stuck in survival mode, why calorie restriction can reinforce danger signals, and how toxin storage in fat tissue can slow fat loss during detox. They emphasize supportive strategies aligned with the Shoemaker protocol: reduce exposure, calm inflammation, use binders and support detox (including daily bowel movements, sleep, gentle movement, sweating, and lymphatic support), prioritize blood sugar stability, eat adequate protein, sleep, and nervous system regulation. They caution that trying harder through calorie restriction, excessive cardio, and weight cycling can worsen stress signals, and raise concerns about GLP-1s. Focus on healing first: weight often shifts as a side effect of recovery. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Why weight changes are so common with CIRS01:00 Medical Disclaimer01:13 Body image issues and bloating: Be comfy and buy clothes that fit02:12 Inflammation, genetics, leptin, and why it’s not just about calories05:38 How CIRS causes weight gain: Cortisol, Hormones, and Survival Mode10:45 Detox, fat storage & the unsexy truth: You’ve gotta poop!12:11 Sleep, NEAT/BMR, and Exercise: Finding the Right Dose While Healing15:02 Why “Trying Harder” Backfires: Dieting, Cardio, Weight Cycling & GLP-1s17:32 Step-by-Step: Heal First to Lose Weight (Reduce Exposure, Detox, Protein, Sleep)21:21 Real-Life Results, Encouragement, and Where to Get Support
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKSHashimoto's episode: https://youtu.be/EpmdvcBbsi4?si=Yxq0_lCaW-bXy2DxWorkout episode: https://youtu.be/69Weo6s1FAQ?si=IqJbBdo_upKtTxOJ
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Feb 18, 2026
Feb 18, 2026
19 min
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this week's episode, Barbara and Jacie discuss how anxiety and depression commonly show up in CIRS, and why these symptoms are often driven by biology and NOT personal weakness. Brain and body inflammation can disrupt neurotransmitters, increase inflammatory cytokines, affect mood regulation, and contribute to blood-brain barrier dysfunction and limbic system hypervigilance, leading to depression, anxiety, cognitive issues, and difficulty word-finding. They share personal experiences with OCD, suicidal ideation, and severe anxiety. They emphasize a “bottom-up” approach (reducing inflammation, treating CIRS/co-infections, addressing environment and exposures like mold) alongside “top-down” supports (therapy, limbic retraining, and community), noting therapy may be less effective without addressing root inflammation. They also highlight how mood improves with treatment, and suggest support options including The CIRS Group community and small group coaching through Untamed Iona (Dr. Lauren Sparks and Dr. Brenda Stewart). Check out our helpful links below the time stamps.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Anxiety & Depression in CIRS: Intro + Disclaimer01:48 What is CIRS? and why mental health symptoms aren’t your fault02:49 Top-Down vs Bottom-Up Healing (Therapy vs Treating Inflammation)05:07 Let's talk biology: brain inflammation, neurotransmitters & mood06:24 Our stories: suicidal ideation, hypervigilance & tick-borne triggers10:23 Blood-Brain barrier + limbic system: why you feel stuck in "threat mode"12:42 The Moldy Doc: snowball effect + hope through treatment14:38 Support Options: therapy, support groups, limbic retraining + resources16:48 Wrap-Up: Calming the alarm + Finding the right order of healing for YOU18:54 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.comMoldy Doc: https://moldymovie.com/Untamed Iona's support groups: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Feb 11, 2026
Feb 11, 2026
19 min
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie talk about the prevalence of Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Despite being relatively unknown, CIRS is not rare; It affects approximately 25% of the population due to genetic susceptibility. They discuss the reasons behind the lack of awareness in conventional medicine, from underdiagnosis and nonspecific symptoms, to larger systemic issues with the medical industry and lack of awareness around mold. This episode highlights who should consider CIRS, the symptoms to look out for, and the steps to diagnosis and treatment. With a mix of personal insights and factual information, this episode aims to arm listeners with the knowledge to make informed decisions about their health. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Timestamps00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer00:36 What is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)?01:36 Why don't people take mold seriously?02:55 Why it's difficult to diagnose CIRS05:22 Prevalence of CIRS and Genetic Susceptibility10:11 Exposure sources and triggers for illness11:22 Common misconceptions and normalization, rationalization15:24 Who should consider CIRS as a potential diagnosis?19:31 Conclusion and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKSWhat even is CIRS? episode: https://youtu.be/K-rztn5x7_w?si=kbmVdeVXx8mLLWu7
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Feb 4, 2026
Feb 4, 2026
35 min
In this informative episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Anjali Noble to discuss the complexities of perimenopause, menopause, and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Noble, founder of the Noble Center for Health and Healing, shares insights on perimenopause and menopause, potential treatments and ways to support the transition, and how CIRS may complicate this natural process. Viewers are advised to consult their own healthcare providers for personalized medical advice.
Dr. Noble emphasizes the importance of addressing stress, improving gut health, and testing/tracking before employing hormone replacement strategies. Tune in for a deep dive into menopause, its symptoms, and what to look for in a doctor and treatment in order to manage it effectively and safely. To work with Dr. Noble, visit her website at https://drnoble.com
For more CIRS information and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer01:56 What is menopause?04:32 Hormonal changes and symptoms of perimenopause07:00 What happens with menopause, or when you hit estrogen depletion?07:50 What are menopause symptoms and how long do they last? 10:50 Definition of perimenopause11:55 CIRS vs menopause17:02 Treatment recommendations for dealing with menopause18:40 Dangers of pellets as a menopause treatment21:45 Deal with stress first, adrenal support, then look at hormones25:30 Lifestyle changes: gut health, methylation, detox30:00 GLP-1s31:29 How to work with Dr. Noble34:30 Outro
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:Dr. Anjali Noble's informational website: https://dranjalinoble.com/Work with Dr. Anjali Noble: https://drnoble.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Jan 28, 2026
Jan 28, 2026
22 min
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explain what Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) is, how to get diagnosed, and how to treat it. They cover sources of biotoxin exposure that can make you sick and what kind of binders work best for these toxins. Jacie and Barbara also discuss the importance of genetic predisposition, the diagnostic criteria, and testing you can do, including visual contrast sensitivity tests and relevant blood markers. They'll also cover the Shoemaker Protocol for treatment, and acknowledge that many of us need to treat co-infections and other long term damage for complete recovery. This episode aims to empower listeners with the knowledge to seek appropriate treatment and navigate this chronic illness effectively.
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer01:09 What is CIRS?01:32 Common sources of biotoxins that can make you sick06:01 How CIRS causes inflammation and multiple symptoms08:10 Why most doctors miss CIRS09:47 Common ways CIRS is misdiagnosed11:00 The CIRS Symptom Clusters, and how to get diagnosed with CIRS16:25 Treating CIRS20:07 Side Quests (co-infections, damage repair) in CIRS recovery22:00 We hope you find healing!
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:Our episode on the Symptom Clusters: https://youtu.be/RyKff3TWBZoVCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screeningOur episode on which bloodmarkers to test: https://youtu.be/XMtbxLLZzaUGenetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-testOur CIRS vs Mold Illness episode: https://youtu.be/ZlYoAcV7uUoShoemaker Protocol research:https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdfhttps://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdfOur episode on the right CIRS Binders: https://youtu.be/KAQfLXuPjFI
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Jan 21, 2026
Jan 21, 2026
22 min
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara explore the connection between Hashimoto's disease and chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS). They dive into the importance of early diagnosis, crucial blood tests, and the differences between conventional and functional treatments. The episode also includes personal anecdotes and practical tips for managing thyroid health, touching on topics like diet, stress management, and the significance of tracking symptoms.
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and disclaimer00:26 Continuing our autoimmune series00:51 Understanding Hashimoto's Disease02:40 Symptoms and diagnosis of Hashimoto's07:50 Hashimoto's causes and triggers12:29 Treatment Options13:27 Symptom management with lifestyle changes18:31 Tracking and monitoring your health21:43 Community Support
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Jan 14, 2026
Jan 14, 2026
18 min
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the complex topic of working out while dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the challenges, benefits, and strategies for maintaining a workout routine despite the debilitating symptoms that CIRS can cause, such as fatigue, joint pain, and hypometabolism. Listeners are advised to consult their healthcare practitioners for personalized advice. Additional insights include using AI for creating custom workout plans, tracking progress, and when to hire a professional to help you. Tune in for practical advice, personal experiences, and motivation to help you navigate your fitness journey alongside CIRS.
00:00 Introduction and disclaimer01:23 How CIRS affects your ability to exercise02:32 Benefits of exercise during CIRS treatment04:36 Slowly ramp up exercise to avoid Push and Crash07:07 Using AI and professional help for fitness plans08:15 How Barbara got back into exercise after surgery10:20 Getting started is the hardest part12:17 Tracking progress, using apps or AI, and when to hire a coach16:08 The best workout to do is the one you'll actually do and enjoy!17:37 Everyone is different!
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS!Dr. Stuart McGill's website: https://www.backfitpro.com/Barbara's PT that built her post-surgery workout program: https://www.d1physicaltherapy.com/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Jan 7, 2026
Jan 7, 2026
24 min
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for those genetically predisposed to CIRS. They'll cover how to find out if you have the genetic markers associated with CIRS, how to get properly diagnosed so you don't waste time and money on the wrong treatment, and why generic mold detox methods may not be sufficient for CIRS patients. They'll also discuss the hidden dangers of antifungal agents and the importance of targeting specific biotoxins in treatment. This episode is a valuable resource for those seeking clarity and effective treatment options to heal from chronic illness.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer01:44 Understanding mold illness vs CIRS03:12 Why your genetics matter, and how to diagnose CIRS04:58 Why some people get sick and others don't06:25 Shoemaker Protocol vs. Mold Detox Protocols07:00 Pros and Cons with Dr. Neil Nathan or Dr. Jill Cresta protocols11:09 Importance of accurate testing for diagnosis13:58 Taking the right binders and treating MARCoNs16:43 Tracking symptoms, hormones, and bloodwork during treatment19:28 Azole (antifungal) treatment22:48 Why we warn people against mainstream mold doctors23:52 Final Thoughts and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-testOur episode on urinary mycotoxin tests: https://youtu.be/qWIIBaMybFA?si=gY6w_JmuuPn1pdOkMARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kitsStudy showing antifungals or -azoles causing brain atrophy (search the text using control + F for 'antifungal' or 'atrophy'): https://www.oatext.com/metabolism-molecular-hypometabolism-and-inflammation-complications-of-proliferative-physiology-include-metabolic-acidosis-pulmonary-hypertension.php
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Dec 31, 2025
Dec 31, 2025
22 min
Join us at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/Sign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
It's the last 2025 episode of The CIRS Group podcast! Hosts Jacie and Barbara share their exciting plans for 2026, including upgrades in podcast quality, fun new merchandise, and including more expert-led classes within the membership. They also talk about personal updates, including Barbara's upcoming wedding and health treatments, and Jacie's insights on nervous system regulation. Join the conversation about their goals for the new year by commenting below what YOU want to see in 2026 from TCG. The CIRS Group plans to continue providing valuable resources and support, so thank you for watching and supporting this channel!
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer00:30 Poop talk01:41 Improved production quality and content!03:13 Transcripts, Printables, worksheets, and more!04:19 Merchandise! Want some merch?05:42 Expert Workshops and CIRS Group membership benefits07:48 Email newsletters and Q&A webinars09:35 CIRSx 202611:13 Barbara's personal updates and 2026 plans15:00 Jacie's personal updates and 2026 plans15:56 Nervous System Regulation insights17:02 Jacie's word for the year: Stewardship20:36 Final thoughts and encouragement
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.comSign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Dec 17, 2025
Dec 17, 2025
54 min
Please note: we filmed this back in November, and moved some episodes around - any comments about the CIRS Summit are a bit out of date, but you can still watch the replays by visiting https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
Sign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
In this special episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie answer a variety of questions during a live, recorded Q&A webinar. Topics discussed include identifying whether you have CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome), the Shoemaker treatment protocol, managing symptoms, dietary changes, and the effectiveness of different binders. They also cover secondary topics like dealing with Lyme disease and tick borne illness, experiencing muscle weakness, and incorporating therapies like cranial sacral and lymphatic drainage for better detox. A must-watch for anyone navigating the complexities of CIRS and seeking expert advice on the path to healing.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.comSign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and Disclaimer03:01 How do I know if I have CIRS?07:19 Can I heal on a low dose of welchol?08:27 Why utilizing a CIRS literate doctor is important10:00 Tips to poop regularly when taking binders12:20 How to know when VIP treatment has worked14:54 Who gets CIRS? What causes CIRS?16:17 How to manage histamine responses to food19:43 Addressing Co-Infections: Lyme and Bartonella24:14 How long does it take to heal?27:48 Gall Bladder issues in CIRS patients29:01 MARCoNs Test: Can You Do It Yourself?29:44 Challenges with binders and intensification or herx reactions31:56 Binders and The Paper Towel metaphor33:16 Join the CIRS Group Community34:37 Addressing full ileostomy concerns36:37 Muscle weakness and how to build strength40:51 When to incorporate VIP treatment for neuroinflammation44:29 Cranial Sacral and Lymphatic Drainage Therapy50:39 Gut Pain - should I try VIP? Or work with Dr. Lacey53:51 Final Thoughts and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:CIRS Summit: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/Find a Shoemaker Certified practitioner or coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitionershttps://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomatesInterview with Dr. Lacey re: GI issues: https://youtu.be/baldT8N7nl4?si=TjgkHXmG8J9psKRQInterview with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres re: Neuroquant MRIs: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM?si=LtVBCRRicVbVKLgSOrder MARCoNs testing: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kitsDr. April's website for cranial manipulation: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/Work with Dr. Lacey on gut issues: https://www.drlacey.org/Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.







