The CIRS Group Podcast

Join Jacie and Barbara for a cozy holiday episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as they share their favorite gift ideas for the chronic illness community. From simple stocking stuffers to big-ticket wellness upgrades, they walk through options at every price point so you can find something thoughtful—whether you're shopping on a tight budget or going all-out.
 
You’ll hear practical picks like Epsom salts and blue-light–blocking glasses, mid-range tools that make daily life easier, and even a few dream splurges like an infrared sauna. They also talk about the gifts that cost nothing at all—acts of service, support, and presence—because those often matter the most.
 
Settle in and gather inspiration for meaningful gifts that can brighten the season for the CIRS or chronic illness warrior in your life.
 
Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome to The CIRS Group Podcast
00:51 – Under $25: Budget-Friendly Gift Ideas
03:12 – $25–$75: Everyday Wellness Upgrades
06:26 – $75–$150: Mid-Tier Health Investments
09:32 – $150–$400: High-End Health Gifts
13:21 – Splurge Gifts: Over $400
15:59 – Non-Monetary Gifts & Acts of Service
17:42 – Closing Thoughts & Holiday Wishes
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
 
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
 
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com I
nstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
 
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
 
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
 
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Register for The CIRS Summit 2025! It's free! https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In today's episode, we dive into the details of the upcoming CIRS Summit 2025 happening on December 13th and 14th. The summit will have a great mix of expert interviews on a wide range of topics related to CIRS. From environmental biotoxins and brain health, to legal advice and family dynamics, there is something for everyone. We'll also talk more about how to register for the event, access replays, and contribute to CIRS research. Check out the timestamps to see who's speaking, and register here: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/ 
TIMESTAMPS00:01 The CIRS Summit 202501:20 This year's Summit is new and improved!02:57 Register for the CIRS Summit03:39 Summary of all the scheduled talks! and Disclaimer03:58 Dr Ritchie Shoemaker - Lessons for Tomorrow from Lessons in the Past04:33 Dr. Jennifer Smith - Complex Family Systems in CIRS05:26 Max McCord - Diagnosing the Root Cause of Environmental Biotoxins06:19 Dr. Andrea Jordheim - How to Improve Your Brain’s Cleaning and Repair System in CIRS07:35 Mindy Mastruserio - Reclaiming Agency in CIRS: Healing the Self Beyond the Protocol09:10 Dr. Christian Navarro Torres - How the Latest Nasal Swab Testing Can Help You Heal10:00 Dr. Paula Kruppstadt - A Perspective on CIRS, Autism and PANS/PANDAS from a Functional Medicine Pediatrician10:58 Dr. Lacey Venanzi - Are you Celiac or just gluten sensitive?12:04 Julie Helm - From Reset to Regeneration: Bridging the Shoemaker Protocol to the Bredesen Protocol13:00 Ian Siegel - How Giftedness Becomes a Curse in a Moldy School13:55 Louise Carder - the Leptin Connection: Satiety, Signaling and Healing15:00 Dr. Stacey McLure - Understanding the Skin Barrier: Structure, Function and Care15:49 Ryan Schnack - How to Build A Strong Legal Case for CIRS16:40 Dr. April Vukelic - Tips for Managing Back and Joint Pain with CIRS19:20 Justin Carlson - New Tools for Living Safely with CIRS: Mold Map, Find a Mold Doctor and Aerlume22:25 Final Thoughts and how to watch for free or get the replays
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara welcome Bill Weber, a CIRS-knowledgeable Indoor Environmental Professional. Bill is a senior consultant with Avalar and a board-certified indoor environmental consultant. Bill shares his expertise on mold testing methods, the art and science of interpreting results, and why professional help is crucial for CIRS patients. He discusses his experience inspecting buildings for water damage and intrusion, the importance of hiring a certified IEP, and provides practical tips for dealing with home contents after mold contamination. Whether you're in need of understanding your ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing results, or just want practical advice on making your home as clean and safe as possible, this episode covers it all. Tune in to gain valuable insights and ensure your living environment is safe and healthy.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.comWork with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer01:33 Meet Bill Weber: Indoor Environmental Professional03:20 Bill's favorite testing methods for mold05:30 Understanding Mold Analysis: ERMI dust tests vs Culture tests08:30 When to choose an ERMI dust test vs culturing10:11 Fun fact about the first four mold types on the ERMI11:50 Why it's so important to hire an IEP for your home12:54 Context of climate in assessing your home14:48 Can you interpret your own ERMI without an IEP?19:06 Actinomycetes bacteria and endotoxin testing22:11 Tips for collecting dust samples26:27 Understanding the nuance and context when interpreting the data31:30 Educating more professionals on remediating properly34:15 Choosing to clean or throw away personal property39:09 How to work with Bill Weber
HELPFUL LINKS:Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/CIRSx Courses for remediators, indoor environmental professionals, and home owners:Medically Important Remediation for Professionals: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mir101Introduction to Medically Important Assessment 101: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia101Deeper Exploration of Medically Important Assessment 102: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia102
Bill Weber's CIRSx talk about mold testing: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222?video=955676414Bill Weber and Michael Schrantz's CIRSx talk about inspecting a convent: Part one: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856185993Part two: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856244891
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and her guest co-host, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, discuss the potential connection between chronic illness and mold exposure, focusing on reality TV star Mikayla Matthews from "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." They'll explore Matthews' health journey, discuss potential chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) symptoms, and highlight the importance of accurate diagnosis and effective treatment (The Shoemaker Protocol). They delve into the scientific foundation of CIRS, the role of genetics, and the significance of environmental triggers. The episode aims to raise awareness about CIRS, offer guidance on diagnosis and treatment options, and share personal insights into managing chronic illness. This is NOT medical advice, please consult a CIRS-literate doctor for diagnosis and treatment. For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
00:00 Introduction01:03 Who we are, and what is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)02:20 Disclaimer and why we are commenting on Mikayla Matthews03:50 What is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?05:00 Trigger Warning, opportunity to raise awareness05:40 Mikayla Matthews' childhood and history of exposure07:20 The CIRS and Eczema connection08:03 Understanding CIRS and its symptoms10:00 Her father's Parkinson's and the genetic factor in CIRS13:11 Link between CIRS and neurodegenerative diseases18:05 How trauma and abuse triggers chronic illness like CIRS23:10 Mikayla's symptoms: eczema, allergies, mollescum, candida, anxiety, pain, vertigo28:00 Labwork to order when you have Eczema: a-MSH, VEGF, MMP933:20 How to get a CIRS Diagnosis: symptoms and tests42:09 Why therapies Mikayla Matthews tried but didn't work45:50 Why urinary mycotoxin tests don't work49:17 Why specific binders are key to healing from mold illness or CIRS53:04 How to test your home for mold57:00 CIRS can allow other infections to take hold58:00 How to find a doctor to help you heal59:05 You CAN heal with the right treatment protocol (Shoemaker)
For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.comWork with Dr. Christian Navarro Torres: https://www.cirslab.com/This episode is a reaction to the podcast interview Mikayla did re: her childhood/history: https://youtu.be/csQJIaNht6A?si=jZyHlzcU3a4cV_bq
HELPFUL LINKS:How to check if a CIRS diagnosis is the answer to your chronic health issues:Symptom Clusters: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIsxBShy0bd/VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screeningHLA DR Genetic Test: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-testDust test your home for mold: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/Dust test your home for endotoxins (poop): https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/Dust test your home for actino bacteria: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/Find a Shoemaker certified doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocolPublished research to explain CIRS to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdfPublished research on the diagnostic process for CIRS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdfWhat is CIRS?: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/blog/what-is-cirs/Our "What is CIRS?" podcast episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhgLearn more about the Brain MRI called the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTMJoin The CIRS Group community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes practical tips for communicating with family and friends, handling dietary and alcohol restrictions, and developing self-care strategies before and after social gatherings. They also highlight the value of therapy and supportive relationships in navigating this difficult time. Tune in for a compassionate and informative session aimed at making your holidays more enjoyable and stress-free.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer00:50 Therapy to help support you during the season02:18 Challenges of an invisible illness during the holidays04:16 Why the holidays and chronic illness are a tough combo07:10 Set expectations and boundaries09:03 Practical tips for dietary restrictions09:54 Tips for leaving early, or declining invitations12:00 Eat before you go13:26 Offering alternatives14:21 Partner and spouse dynamics16:56 Creating health-supportive traditions19:15 Coping mechanisms for social anxiety, avoiding drinking24:33 The Importance of Boundaries26:23 Community Support
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regions to measure volumes, particularly crucial for diagnosing and treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Navarro Torres explains the differences between the older and newer versions of NeuroQuant and how this affects CIRS patients. He also highlights how patients can get their NeuroQuant reports converted to the right version, and even generate a NQ report from raw MRI data, which has not been available before now! They will also talk about the importance of the CIRS Research Foundation and the upcoming CIRS Summit. Stay tuned until the end for money-saving tips on getting your own NeuroQuant report!
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIME STAMPS00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer01:35 Meet Dr. Christian Navarro Torres02:10 NeuroQuants have CHANGED!03:25 Understanding NeuroQuant06:30 How to get a NeuroQuant10:13 NeuroQuant Software Versions - which one do you have?12:40 How the Surviving Mold report is affected by the NQ version17:19 Future of NeuroQuant Research19:36 How you can support CIRS Research20:57 Practical steps and MONEY saving tips!28:55 Special package offered for CIRSLab members
How to work with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres:thecirslab@gmail.comhttps://www.cirslab.com/
Our last NQ episode with Christian: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=dTTAS-iocn9U-hK_Our NQ 101 episode: https://youtu.be/4-OozD0P280?si=MafRECeQ6TTAUeujThe CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/The CIRS Summit info is coming soon! Subscribe to make sure you get notified!
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie discuss YouTuber Chris Williamson's recent video titled 'It's Time to Talk About My Health,' which details his struggles with chronic health issues despite his connections in the fitness, wellness, and biohacking community. They'll cover his diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr and others, his symptoms, the treatments he attempted, and the strong possibility that he may be overlooking the Shoemaker Protocol for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Many people suffer with CIRS and think they're treating it properly, but unfortunately many doctors are not educated on the most efficient and research-backed approach, so hopefully this episode helps spread more awareness. This is not medical advice, please consult with a doctor - especially a Shoemaker certified practitioner - to decide the best treatment for you.
If you would like to learn more about CIRS, visit https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Here's the link to the video we're reacting to today: https://youtu.be/IU4D_kjty2k?si=pJTJCkKaWP0wcaSd
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and disclaimer01:34 Who is Chris Williamson?03:03 Health challenges hit everyone, even when you're rich and famous07:00 Chris' symptoms and diagnosis of mold illness, lyme, epstein barr8:55 Lyme or CIRS? or BOTH?10:30 What is CIRS?11:45 What Chris tried but didn't work13:44 Why the RIGHT binders matter to get better17:34 The Importance of Proper Diagnosis18:46 Why we talk about the Shoemaker Protocol20:42 "You're just stressed, you need rest"23:44 "You have a million problems until you have one of them"24:55 A unique male perspective on CIRS
HELPFUL LINKS:Our "What is CIRS?" episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=20xZ5AdP2tDqL1Q2Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne illness and CIRS: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=Xc7dhc39rLFE99kZOur other episode on treating tick borne illness, including Lyme: https://youtu.be/3XyjE2BJvjM?si=SCf85207ricG2n7c
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the specifics of ankylosing spondylitis, an autoimmune condition that Jacie personally struggled with. They discuss the genetic aspects tied to the HLA-B27 gene and its role in autoimmune disorders, including ankylosing spondylitis, acute anterior uveitis, reactive arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. Jacie shares a detailed account of her rapid symptom progression and how treatment for CIRS (chronic inflammatory response syndrome) brought her significant relief. The episode highlights the overlap between CIRS and autoimmune conditions, emphasizing the importance of addressing environmental toxins for effective treatment.
For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and medical disclaimer01:24 Understanding HLA-B27 and it's connection to autoimmune conditions03:29 Jacie's experience with Ankylosing Spondylitis6:50 America's Sweethearts Dallas Cowboys reference to AS8:03 The connection of arthritis and eyeballs8:40 Triggers and progression of Ankylosing Spondylitis11:42 Treatment and Management for Ankylosing Spondylitis12:35 Interesting connection to Klebsiella 13:25 How CIRS treatment cured Jacie's AS16:11 Overlap between HLA-B27 and CIRS19:00 Conclusion and Encouragement
HELPFUL LINKS:Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into practical tips and resources for maintaining a safe and healthy living or workspace. They cover important aspects including managing humidity levels, choosing a home location, working with landlords, utilizing air purifiers, and regular small particle cleaning. The episode also touches on avoiding environmental issues like endotoxins, actinomycetes, & mold. Please note the importance of consulting with a professional for personalized advice and further assistance. Hopefully these actionable steps help you keep your space safe and healthy!
For more resources and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer01:26 What to look for in a new location and unit04:13 Humidity Control Tips06:22 Leak prevention tips and management08:45 Air Purifiers and Return Air / HVAC Filters12:13 Preventing sewer gas leaks (endotoxins, aka poop!)16:37 Small Particle Cleaning to lower actinos20:52 Handling Mycotoxins and Mold23:39 Conclusion and Additional Resources
HELPFUL LINKS!Our past episode on renting with CIRS: https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=6tfF4ixs5dG0fsI3Hydrometers on Amazon: https://a.co/d/hVz6JgbLeak alarms on amazon: https://a.co/d/0v3oCTTLeak tray for under sinks: https://a.co/d/dQNnClAIEP Radio episode w/the owner of Air Oasis air filters: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=sbERp6gCZ4c-nJDfOur "You're leaking, now what?" episode: https://youtu.be/yfnTLvfbuv8?si=4nMso-NeFLm2bC1N
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara are joined by Dr. Lacey Venanzi, a functional medicine practitioner who specializes in treating CIRS and gut dysfunction. Dr. Lacey discusses her insights on the gut microbiome, its connection to chronic illnesses, and how the immune system plays a major role. They explore various testing methods for gut health, the implications of common symptoms, and the importance of maintaining good bacteria in the body. Dr. Lacey also shares her strategies for supporting the microbiome and emphasizes the significance of sunlight and proper blue light management for overall health recovery. The session is filled with valuable information for anyone struggling with gut health issues, offering practical steps and considerations for both patients and practitioners.
To work with Dr. Lacey Venanzi, visit https://www.drlacey.org/For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and disclaimer01:08 Start of the interview with Dr. Lacey Interview02:48 Why is gut dysbiosis so common with CIRS?03:18 Immune Dysregulation and Gut Health05:22 Problems with culture-based gut tests08:50 Comparing the gut tests and Dr. Lacey's favorites10:10 Reasons you may want a culturing test11:00 Intestinal Permeability Test13:49 When should you test your gut health?15:45 The misconceptions about MCAS and histamine issues 17:28 The issue with normalizing common GI problems20:00 Sleep Apnea, hormone imbalances, and testing for co-infections23:00 Blue Light as a carcinogen23:48 Raising MSH & the Importance of Sunlight27:52 What does a healthy GI system even look like?31:07 Signs of Parasites: cravings and always being hungry32:49 How to Work with Dr. Lacey34:01 Additional resources for learning about gut health34:40 Preserving the host (the patient) as a method to eliminate the infection37:20 Jacie's experience with AS and reasonable expectations for healing43:00 The dangers of essential oils45:31 HLA Disorders and CIRS46:28 Don't assume: Test!
HELPFUL LINKS!To work with Dr. Lacey Venanzi, visit https://www.drlacey.org/Our CIRSx 2025 recap of Dr. Lacey's talk: https://youtu.be/hqqluZl28TY?si=s_M3xivsMhUmwmMJ&t=1403Dr. Lacey's favorite gut tests (DNA sequencing tests) below:Nirvana Biome: https://www.nirvanabiome.com/Tiny Health: https://www.tinyhealth.com/Ombre: https://www.ombrelab.com/products/ombre-gut-health-testResource Dr. Lacey recommended: https://www.probioticadvisor.com/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.