The CIRS Group Podcast
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness. Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.
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4 days ago
4 days ago
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dive into the complex topic of working out while dealing with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). They discuss the challenges, benefits, and strategies for maintaining a workout routine despite the debilitating symptoms that CIRS can cause, such as fatigue, joint pain, and hypometabolism. Listeners are advised to consult their healthcare practitioners for personalized advice. Additional insights include using AI for creating custom workout plans, tracking progress, and when to hire a professional to help you. Tune in for practical advice, personal experiences, and motivation to help you navigate your fitness journey alongside CIRS.
00:00 Introduction and disclaimer01:23 How CIRS affects your ability to exercise02:32 Benefits of exercise during CIRS treatment04:36 Slowly ramp up exercise to avoid Push and Crash07:07 Using AI and professional help for fitness plans08:15 How Barbara got back into exercise after surgery10:20 Getting started is the hardest part12:17 Tracking progress, using apps or AI, and when to hire a coach16:08 The best workout to do is the one you'll actually do and enjoy!17:37 Everyone is different!
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS!Dr. Stuart McGill's website: https://www.backfitpro.com/Barbara's PT that built her post-surgery workout program: https://www.d1physicaltherapy.com/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
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In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the distinctions between mold illness and CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome). They clarify the confusion surrounding these terms, which are often used interchangeably online, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Shoemaker Protocol for those genetically predisposed to CIRS. They'll cover how to find out if you have the genetic markers associated with CIRS, how to get properly diagnosed so you don't waste time and money on the wrong treatment, and why generic mold detox methods may not be sufficient for CIRS patients. They'll also discuss the hidden dangers of antifungal agents and the importance of targeting specific biotoxins in treatment. This episode is a valuable resource for those seeking clarity and effective treatment options to heal from chronic illness.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer01:44 Understanding mold illness vs CIRS03:12 Why your genetics matter, and how to diagnose CIRS04:58 Why some people get sick and others don't06:25 Shoemaker Protocol vs. Mold Detox Protocols07:00 Pros and Cons with Dr. Neil Nathan or Dr. Jill Cresta protocols11:09 Importance of accurate testing for diagnosis13:58 Taking the right binders and treating MARCoNs16:43 Tracking symptoms, hormones, and bloodwork during treatment19:28 Azole (antifungal) treatment22:48 Why we warn people against mainstream mold doctors23:52 Final Thoughts and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Genetic test for CIRS: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-testOur episode on urinary mycotoxin tests: https://youtu.be/qWIIBaMybFA?si=gY6w_JmuuPn1pdOkMARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kitsStudy showing antifungals or -azoles causing brain atrophy (search the text using control + F for 'antifungal' or 'atrophy'): https://www.oatext.com/metabolism-molecular-hypometabolism-and-inflammation-complications-of-proliferative-physiology-include-metabolic-acidosis-pulmonary-hypertension.php
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Dec 31, 2025
Wednesday Dec 31, 2025
Join us at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/Sign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
It's the last 2025 episode of The CIRS Group podcast! Hosts Jacie and Barbara share their exciting plans for 2026, including upgrades in podcast quality, fun new merchandise, and including more expert-led classes within the membership. They also talk about personal updates, including Barbara's upcoming wedding and health treatments, and Jacie's insights on nervous system regulation. Join the conversation about their goals for the new year by commenting below what YOU want to see in 2026 from TCG. The CIRS Group plans to continue providing valuable resources and support, so thank you for watching and supporting this channel!
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer00:30 Poop talk01:41 Improved production quality and content!03:13 Transcripts, Printables, worksheets, and more!04:19 Merchandise! Want some merch?05:42 Expert Workshops and CIRS Group membership benefits07:48 Email newsletters and Q&A webinars09:35 CIRSx 202611:13 Barbara's personal updates and 2026 plans15:00 Jacie's personal updates and 2026 plans15:56 Nervous System Regulation insights17:02 Jacie's word for the year: Stewardship20:36 Final thoughts and encouragement
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.comSign up for our next live Q&A webinar: https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Wednesday Dec 17, 2025
Please note: we filmed this back in November, and moved some episodes around - any comments about the CIRS Summit are a bit out of date, but you can still watch the replays by visiting https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
Sign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
In this special episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie answer a variety of questions during a live, recorded Q&A webinar. Topics discussed include identifying whether you have CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome), the Shoemaker treatment protocol, managing symptoms, dietary changes, and the effectiveness of different binders. They also cover secondary topics like dealing with Lyme disease and tick borne illness, experiencing muscle weakness, and incorporating therapies like cranial sacral and lymphatic drainage for better detox. A must-watch for anyone navigating the complexities of CIRS and seeking expert advice on the path to healing.
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.comSign up to get notified next time we do a live Q&A! https://thecirsgroup.kit.com/2025ama
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and Disclaimer03:01 How do I know if I have CIRS?07:19 Can I heal on a low dose of welchol?08:27 Why utilizing a CIRS literate doctor is important10:00 Tips to poop regularly when taking binders12:20 How to know when VIP treatment has worked14:54 Who gets CIRS? What causes CIRS?16:17 How to manage histamine responses to food19:43 Addressing Co-Infections: Lyme and Bartonella24:14 How long does it take to heal?27:48 Gall Bladder issues in CIRS patients29:01 MARCoNs Test: Can You Do It Yourself?29:44 Challenges with binders and intensification or herx reactions31:56 Binders and The Paper Towel metaphor33:16 Join the CIRS Group Community34:37 Addressing full ileostomy concerns36:37 Muscle weakness and how to build strength40:51 When to incorporate VIP treatment for neuroinflammation44:29 Cranial Sacral and Lymphatic Drainage Therapy50:39 Gut Pain - should I try VIP? Or work with Dr. Lacey53:51 Final Thoughts and Resources
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:CIRS Summit: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/Find a Shoemaker Certified practitioner or coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitionershttps://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomatesInterview with Dr. Lacey re: GI issues: https://youtu.be/baldT8N7nl4?si=TjgkHXmG8J9psKRQInterview with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres re: Neuroquant MRIs: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTM?si=LtVBCRRicVbVKLgSOrder MARCoNs testing: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kitsDr. April's website for cranial manipulation: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/Work with Dr. Lacey on gut issues: https://www.drlacey.org/Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Dec 10, 2025
Wednesday Dec 10, 2025
Join Jacie and Barbara for a cozy holiday episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as they share their favorite gift ideas for the chronic illness community. From simple stocking stuffers to big-ticket wellness upgrades, they walk through options at every price point so you can find something thoughtful—whether you're shopping on a tight budget or going all-out.
You’ll hear practical picks like Epsom salts and blue-light–blocking glasses, mid-range tools that make daily life easier, and even a few dream splurges like an infrared sauna. They also talk about the gifts that cost nothing at all—acts of service, support, and presence—because those often matter the most.
Settle in and gather inspiration for meaningful gifts that can brighten the season for the CIRS or chronic illness warrior in your life.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Welcome to The CIRS Group Podcast
00:51 – Under $25: Budget-Friendly Gift Ideas
03:12 – $25–$75: Everyday Wellness Upgrades
06:26 – $75–$150: Mid-Tier Health Investments
09:32 – $150–$400: High-End Health Gifts
13:21 – Splurge Gifts: Over $400
15:59 – Non-Monetary Gifts & Acts of Service
17:42 – Closing Thoughts & Holiday Wishes
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com I
nstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
Wednesday Dec 03, 2025
Register for The CIRS Summit 2025! It's free! https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast with Barbara and Jacie! In today's episode, we dive into the details of the upcoming CIRS Summit 2025 happening on December 13th and 14th. The summit will have a great mix of expert interviews on a wide range of topics related to CIRS. From environmental biotoxins and brain health, to legal advice and family dynamics, there is something for everyone. We'll also talk more about how to register for the event, access replays, and contribute to CIRS research. Check out the timestamps to see who's speaking, and register here: https://cirs-summit-2025.heysummit.com/
TIMESTAMPS00:01 The CIRS Summit 202501:20 This year's Summit is new and improved!02:57 Register for the CIRS Summit03:39 Summary of all the scheduled talks! and Disclaimer03:58 Dr Ritchie Shoemaker - Lessons for Tomorrow from Lessons in the Past04:33 Dr. Jennifer Smith - Complex Family Systems in CIRS05:26 Max McCord - Diagnosing the Root Cause of Environmental Biotoxins06:19 Dr. Andrea Jordheim - How to Improve Your Brain’s Cleaning and Repair System in CIRS07:35 Mindy Mastruserio - Reclaiming Agency in CIRS: Healing the Self Beyond the Protocol09:10 Dr. Christian Navarro Torres - How the Latest Nasal Swab Testing Can Help You Heal10:00 Dr. Paula Kruppstadt - A Perspective on CIRS, Autism and PANS/PANDAS from a Functional Medicine Pediatrician10:58 Dr. Lacey Venanzi - Are you Celiac or just gluten sensitive?12:04 Julie Helm - From Reset to Regeneration: Bridging the Shoemaker Protocol to the Bredesen Protocol13:00 Ian Siegel - How Giftedness Becomes a Curse in a Moldy School13:55 Louise Carder - the Leptin Connection: Satiety, Signaling and Healing15:00 Dr. Stacey McLure - Understanding the Skin Barrier: Structure, Function and Care15:49 Ryan Schnack - How to Build A Strong Legal Case for CIRS16:40 Dr. April Vukelic - Tips for Managing Back and Joint Pain with CIRS19:20 Justin Carlson - New Tools for Living Safely with CIRS: Mold Map, Find a Mold Doctor and Aerlume22:25 Final Thoughts and how to watch for free or get the replays
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Nov 19, 2025
Wednesday Nov 19, 2025
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara welcome Bill Weber, a CIRS-knowledgeable Indoor Environmental Professional. Bill is a senior consultant with Avalar and a board-certified indoor environmental consultant. Bill shares his expertise on mold testing methods, the art and science of interpreting results, and why professional help is crucial for CIRS patients. He discusses his experience inspecting buildings for water damage and intrusion, the importance of hiring a certified IEP, and provides practical tips for dealing with home contents after mold contamination. Whether you're in need of understanding your ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing results, or just want practical advice on making your home as clean and safe as possible, this episode covers it all. Tune in to gain valuable insights and ensure your living environment is safe and healthy.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.comWork with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer01:33 Meet Bill Weber: Indoor Environmental Professional03:20 Bill's favorite testing methods for mold05:30 Understanding Mold Analysis: ERMI dust tests vs Culture tests08:30 When to choose an ERMI dust test vs culturing10:11 Fun fact about the first four mold types on the ERMI11:50 Why it's so important to hire an IEP for your home12:54 Context of climate in assessing your home14:48 Can you interpret your own ERMI without an IEP?19:06 Actinomycetes bacteria and endotoxin testing22:11 Tips for collecting dust samples26:27 Understanding the nuance and context when interpreting the data31:30 Educating more professionals on remediating properly34:15 Choosing to clean or throw away personal property39:09 How to work with Bill Weber
HELPFUL LINKS:Work with Bill: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/CIRSx Courses for remediators, indoor environmental professionals, and home owners:Medically Important Remediation for Professionals: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mir101Introduction to Medically Important Assessment 101: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia101Deeper Exploration of Medically Important Assessment 102: https://institute.cirsx.com/course/mia102
Bill Weber's CIRSx talk about mold testing: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222?video=955676414Bill Weber and Michael Schrantz's CIRSx talk about inspecting a convent: Part one: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856185993Part two: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385262?video=856244891
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and her guest co-host, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, discuss the potential connection between chronic illness and mold exposure, focusing on reality TV star Mikayla Matthews from "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." They'll explore Matthews' health journey, discuss potential chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS) symptoms, and highlight the importance of accurate diagnosis and effective treatment (The Shoemaker Protocol). They delve into the scientific foundation of CIRS, the role of genetics, and the significance of environmental triggers. The episode aims to raise awareness about CIRS, offer guidance on diagnosis and treatment options, and share personal insights into managing chronic illness. This is NOT medical advice, please consult a CIRS-literate doctor for diagnosis and treatment. For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
00:00 Introduction01:03 Who we are, and what is Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS)02:20 Disclaimer and why we are commenting on Mikayla Matthews03:50 What is The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?05:00 Trigger Warning, opportunity to raise awareness05:40 Mikayla Matthews' childhood and history of exposure07:20 The CIRS and Eczema connection08:03 Understanding CIRS and its symptoms10:00 Her father's Parkinson's and the genetic factor in CIRS13:11 Link between CIRS and neurodegenerative diseases18:05 How trauma and abuse triggers chronic illness like CIRS23:10 Mikayla's symptoms: eczema, allergies, mollescum, candida, anxiety, pain, vertigo28:00 Labwork to order when you have Eczema: a-MSH, VEGF, MMP933:20 How to get a CIRS Diagnosis: symptoms and tests42:09 Why therapies Mikayla Matthews tried but didn't work45:50 Why urinary mycotoxin tests don't work49:17 Why specific binders are key to healing from mold illness or CIRS53:04 How to test your home for mold57:00 CIRS can allow other infections to take hold58:00 How to find a doctor to help you heal59:05 You CAN heal with the right treatment protocol (Shoemaker)
For more information and support, visit https://thecirsgroup.comWork with Dr. Christian Navarro Torres: https://www.cirslab.com/This episode is a reaction to the podcast interview Mikayla did re: her childhood/history: https://youtu.be/csQJIaNht6A?si=jZyHlzcU3a4cV_bq
HELPFUL LINKS:How to check if a CIRS diagnosis is the answer to your chronic health issues:Symptom Clusters: https://www.instagram.com/p/DIsxBShy0bd/VCS Test: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screeningHLA DR Genetic Test: https://www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100087/hla-dr-mold-genetic-testDust test your home for mold: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/Dust test your home for endotoxins (poop): https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/Dust test your home for actino bacteria: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/Find a Shoemaker certified doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocolPublished research to explain CIRS to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdfPublished research on the diagnostic process for CIRS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdfWhat is CIRS?: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/blog/what-is-cirs/Our "What is CIRS?" podcast episode: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhgLearn more about the Brain MRI called the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/Lc_LfUeiYTMJoin The CIRS Group community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/membership/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, hosts Jacie and Barbara discuss the unique challenges faced by individuals with chronic illnesses during the holiday season. They delve into the importance of setting boundaries, managing expectations, and prioritizing health to make social events more manageable. The discussion includes practical tips for communicating with family and friends, handling dietary and alcohol restrictions, and developing self-care strategies before and after social gatherings. They also highlight the value of therapy and supportive relationships in navigating this difficult time. Tune in for a compassionate and informative session aimed at making your holidays more enjoyable and stress-free.
For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer00:50 Therapy to help support you during the season02:18 Challenges of an invisible illness during the holidays04:16 Why the holidays and chronic illness are a tough combo07:10 Set expectations and boundaries09:03 Practical tips for dietary restrictions09:54 Tips for leaving early, or declining invitations12:00 Eat before you go13:26 Offering alternatives14:21 Partner and spouse dynamics16:56 Creating health-supportive traditions19:15 Coping mechanisms for social anxiety, avoiding drinking24:33 The Importance of Boundaries26:23 Community Support
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
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Welcome to another episode of The CIRS Group podcast! In this episode, hosts Jacie and Barbara welcome Dr. Christian Navarro Torres, a PhD cognitive scientist specialized in cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and language science. They'll cover the latest updates to NeuroQuant, an FDA-approved software used for segmenting brain regions to measure volumes, particularly crucial for diagnosing and treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Dr. Navarro Torres explains the differences between the older and newer versions of NeuroQuant and how this affects CIRS patients. He also highlights how patients can get their NeuroQuant reports converted to the right version, and even generate a NQ report from raw MRI data, which has not been available before now! They will also talk about the importance of the CIRS Research Foundation and the upcoming CIRS Summit. Stay tuned until the end for money-saving tips on getting your own NeuroQuant report!
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TIME STAMPS00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer01:35 Meet Dr. Christian Navarro Torres02:10 NeuroQuants have CHANGED!03:25 Understanding NeuroQuant06:30 How to get a NeuroQuant10:13 NeuroQuant Software Versions - which one do you have?12:40 How the Surviving Mold report is affected by the NQ version17:19 Future of NeuroQuant Research19:36 How you can support CIRS Research20:57 Practical steps and MONEY saving tips!28:55 Special package offered for CIRSLab members
How to work with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres:thecirslab@gmail.comhttps://www.cirslab.com/
Our last NQ episode with Christian: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=dTTAS-iocn9U-hK_Our NQ 101 episode: https://youtu.be/4-OozD0P280?si=MafRECeQ6TTAUeujThe CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/The CIRS Summit info is coming soon! Subscribe to make sure you get notified!
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
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Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.







