The CIRS Group Podcast

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness. Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.

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4 days ago

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In today's episode of The CIRS Group podcast, we will dive into the intricacies of managing life as a CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) patient. We will cover timing binder doses, the importance of getting sun and fresh air, how to manage the cleaning schedule, and lots more. As always, consult your Shoemaker Certified Practitioner before implementing any changes to your treatment plan. None of this should be considered medical advice. We hope this episode helps you improve the day-to-day experience of living with CIRS. For more info and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:18 First thing: take your binder1:54 Why work with a Shoemaker Certified provider or Proficiency Partner2:18 Why have fat or fiber with binders?3:00 How long to wait to take supplements and why5:07 Cleaning tips and tricks6:05 Get some sun and fresh air6:53 Shift or move your iAdapt air purifier7:42 How to handle the rest of your binder doses9:20 Home maintenance to avoid leaks and water damage10:57 Check in with your CIRS coach or community12:25 Changing your bedding, track your symptoms before bed14:55 Sleep tips!15:57 This was a perfect CIRS day, but you don't have to be perfect to heal17:55 When to utilize a CIRS Coach18:38 Progress over Perfect
HELPFUL LINKS:Our episode on binders: https://youtu.be/KAQfLXuPjFI?si=_TqJ7_1yk5o6VvN8Our episode on binder timing: https://youtu.be/hrTUMDfDpIY?si=zbgMmN72hbPd1APBLeak detectors:Wifi enabled: https://a.co/d/4muXdkpnon-wifi: https://a.co/d/5tw0cvZUnder-sink mats: https://a.co/d/9MFcdrdHow to find a Proficiency Partner CIRS Coach: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomatesOr join us over at The CIRS Group! https://thecirsgroup.com
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jul 16, 2025

For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Join us in today's episode of The CIRS Group Podcast as we discuss the NeuroQuant, a specialized brain MRI crucial for those with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). Learn why this scan is so important, how it helps track brain health, and its application in diagnosing conditions like dementia. Get tips on how to prepare for your NeuroQuant MRI, and be sure you get the right scan with the right software. Note: This video is for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice.
For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer01:06 How CIRS affects the brain with inflammation and atrophy02:00 How the NeuroQuant can diagnose neurodegeneration03:31 Interpreting NeuroQuant results04:54 When and why should you get a NeuroQuant?08:15 NeuroQuant vs. the GENIE Test09:17 Tips for getting an MRI, Barbara and Jacie's experience15:01 NeuroQuant software versions and conversion issue
HELPFUL LINKS:Our episode with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres all about the NeuroQuant: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-cBook a consultation with Christian: https://consult-christian.as.me/schedule/a89e8b00Surviving Mold’s list of NQ locations: https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/neuroquant/neuroquant-locations/locations-currently-offering-neuroquant
Additionally, here are the four companies that should be able to do NeuroQuant MRI:SimonMed ImagingRAYUS RadiologyUS Radiology SpecialistsEnvision Radiology
Once you select a location, call to find out:1. Their ability to apply the NeuroQuant Protocol to an MRI without contrast2. Are they covered by your insurance? If not, what is the out-of-pocket cost for the test?You’ll then ask your doctor to send the order to them directly on your behalf.
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jul 02, 2025

For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Today, we're concluding our CIRSx 2025 recap, this time focusing on environmental topics and practical advice for maintaining a healthy home as a CIRS patient. We'll cover remediation planning, small particle cleaning, affordable housing for CIRS patients, and new testing methods for mold detection. Key speakers such as Brandon Apple, Ming Dooley, Michael Schrantz, Derrick Denis, and Bill Weber provide valuable insights on topics like HVAC inspection, sewer gas issues, and culturing molds. Tune in to get essential tips on home maintenance, mold remediation, and new developments in indoor air quality analysis. Let us know what you think in the comments!
For more information and support, visit us over at https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Overview01:22 Successful Building Remediation with Clarity, Accountability and Sequencing: A Case Study with Brandon Apple04:31 My Very Own Sirewall Part 2: The Adventure Continues with Ming Dooley, DACM07:09 MAGIS Home Building Company09:00 Microbial Growth Where You Least Expect with Greg Weatherman, CMC11:01 Health Effects of Sewer Gas with Derrick Denis , CIEC, CIAQP, CAC17:24 Revolution in the Analysis of Indoor Air Quality: Water Vapor as a Carrier of Toxic Substances with Associate Professor Kirsi Vaali, PhD22:34 Flexin' the Flow: Your Guide into HVAC Inspection & Cleaning with Michael Schrantz, CIEC, CMI28:40 Culturing: Analyzing Dust for Viable Mold with Bill Weber, GC, CR, CMRS, CIEC33:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
HELPFUL LINKS:Brandon Apple's website: https://www.moldsci.com/about-us/our-team/brandon-appleMing Dooley's contact info: ming@holisticresonancecenter.comMAGIS website: https://www.magisdevelopments.com/Greg Weatherman's website: https://www.survivingremediation.com/one-on-one-with-gregDerrick Denis' website: https://www.csceng.com/Kirsi Vaali's info: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kirsi-VaaliMichael Schrantz' website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/Bill Weber's website: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jun 25, 2025

For more information and support, visit our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com
Today we are continuing our recap of the talks we heard at CIRSx 2025, and specifically we will be covering the legal and psychological topics. Here are the talks we will be recapping:
CIRS Research Committee Update: An Update on the CIRS Research with Glenn DiTulioA Lawyer's Shared Experience as a CIRS Patient, Lawyer and the Legal Future of CIRS with Ryan Schnack, Esq.The Psychological Journey of CIRS Recovery: Rediscovering Agency and Purpose on the Healing Path with Ryan J. Holsapple, PhDUsing Data to Restore Truth in the Courtroom with Dr. Scott McMahonFight for Your Right to Practice with Dr. Lauren Sparks, DNP, CNP, APRNComplex Family Systems in CIRS with Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer00:40 The CIRS Research Committee by Glenn DiTulio02:47 A Lawyer's experience with CIRS by Ryan Schnack, Esq.08:56 A husband's story of supporting his wife through CIRS by Ryan Holsapple, PhD13:21 Published Research to support CIRS in legal battles by Dr. Scott McMahon16:47 Fight for your right to practice by Dr. Lauren Sparks21:15 Complex Family Systems in CIRS with Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith24:32 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
Helpful Links/Info:Official CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/Email Glenn about the CIRS Research Foundation's work: glenn@regenixhealing.comMelanie Pensak's website: https://www.melaniepensak.com/Ryan Schanck, Esq.'s website: https://www.ryanschnacklaw.com/Codes to use so CIRS symptoms are taken seriously in legal situations:277.120: Contact with toxic exposureR65.10: Chronic InflammationR65.11: Systemic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (SIRS)M35.81: COVID- multi system inflammatory response syndromeRyan Holsapple , PhD's website: https://www.centerforcreativechoice.com/Dr. Scott McMahon's website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/Dr. Lauren Sparks' website: https://www.untamediona.com/Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith's website: https://www.silvertreewellness.com/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jun 18, 2025

For more information and support, visit us at our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com
This week, we are continuing our recap of the CIRSx 2025 conference! Today, we are focusing on the treatment talks:
Understanding the Pitfalls of Tick Borne Testing with Christian Navarro Torres, PhD, CIRS LabFinding the Tick-Borne Needle in the Haystack: Tick Borne Infections in CIRS Patients with Peg DiTulio, DNP, APRNDiagnosing Lyme and Co-infections: An Investigation of the Availability, Diversity and Validity of the Current Testing with Dr. Laura Varga, DAOMAir Oasis EdTalk with Brad Baxter, COOA Unifying Theory of Neurodegeneration with Dr. Dale BredesenThe Actinobacteria Reduction Study: Making Life Easier for the CIRS Community with Eric Dorninger, ND, LAcBrain Injury in CIRS: From Specific Causation to a Unique Transcriptomic Fingerprint in Parkinson's with Dr. Ritchie ShoemakerThe Principles of Body Typing as a Critical Tool for CIRS Success with Erin Livers , BA, ICNTEvidence-based Diagnoses and Strategies for the CIRS Microbiome with Dr. Lacey Venazi
For more information and support, visit us at our NEW WEBSITE! https://www.thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and disclaimer00:45 Tick-Borne testing insights by Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, Dr. Peg DiTulio, Dr. Laura Varga09:02 AirOasis ED Talk by Brad Baxter11:19 Dr. Dale Bredesen's Keynote on Alzheimer's and Neurodegeneration15:46 Actinobacteria Reduction Study by Dr. Eric Dorninger18:20 Dr. Shoemaker's Talk on Parkinson's Research20:45 Principles of Body Typing for Nutrition by Nutritionist Erin Livers23:23 CIRS and the Gut Microbiome by Dr. Lacey Venazi27:41 Conclusion and Additional Resources
Helpful links/info:CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres' website: https://www.cirslab.com/Dr. Peg DiTulio's website: https://regenixhealing.com/Dr. Laura Varga: https://www.instagram.com/thejupiterapproach/ or email her at TheJupiterApproach@gmail.comAir Oasis website: https://www.airoasis.com/Dr. Dale Bredesen's website: https://www.apollohealthco.com/dr-bredesen/The Flow Free game Jacie plays: https://www.bgames.com/game/flow-free-online/Our last CIRSx recap episode: https://youtu.be/0aLD_1ixWXU?si=5-DxFVxgy7dleux3Dr. Eric Dorninger's website: https://drdorninger.com/Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker's website: https://www.survivingmold.com/Erin Livers' website: https://foodasnourishment.com/Dr. Abravanel's Body Type Diet and Lifetime Nutrition Plan: https://a.co/d/g6Z1bP7Dr. Lacey Venazi's website: https://www.drlacey.org/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jun 11, 2025

For more information and support, visit us at our NEW website! https://www.thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie reflect on their experience at the CIRSx 2025 conference in Tempe, AZ. They discuss highlights from the event, including impactful talks on tick-borne illnesses, brain health with Dr. Dale Bredesen, and insights on the gut microbiome by Dr. Lacey. They'll also discuss their own talk at the conference and how travel can be tough on a CIRS patient. For more information and support, visit us at our NEW website! https://www.thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and disclaimer00:33 CIRSx 2025 Highlights02:07 Proficiency Partner Program Changes04:13 Dr. Shoemaker's Triumphant Return05:18 Unexpected Shoey Award07:14 Barbara and Jacie's Talk at CIRSx07:48 Jacie's Health Scare13:08 The Takeaways from our Talk17:12 Acknowledging the Challenges of CIRS Practitioners18:13 Validating Your Decision to Stay Home18:57 Managing Chronic Illness and Exposure21:42 Travel and Health Management Strategies25:24 Conference Highlights and Talks
Check out our episode on Jacie's upcoming move (renter / moving tips) : https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=-yuW1mu6UDJ5I3fl
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday Jun 04, 2025

For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of the CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara delve into what exactly Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome or CIRS looks like. CIRS manifests in various ways depending on the individual and it's important to recognize the symptoms. The episode covers the genetic aspect of CIRS, the myriad of symptoms it can cause, and its potential connection to autoimmune conditions. They also emphasize the importance of proper diagnosis and treatment, advocating for the prioritization of addressing root causes over mere symptom management. For more info and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
00:00 Introduction and Prepping for CIRSx01:10 What is CIRS?01:38 Symptoms and CIRS Diagnosis02:49 Personal Experiences with CIRS04:26 CIRS and Autoimmune Conditions05:25 Conventional Medicine vs. CIRS Treatment07:50 Common Misdiagnoses09:18 The Impact of CIRS on Daily Life12:14 Conclusion and Community Support
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday May 28, 2025

For more information and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Barbara and Jacie delve into the complexities of Lyme disease and other tick-borne illnesses, and how often these occur among CIRS patients. It also happens to be Lyme Disease Awareness Month! They'll cover important information about tick borne symptoms, testing methods, and treatment approaches.
Common tick borne illnesses include:- Lyme disease, often caused by Borrelia burgdorferi- Tick-Borne Relapsing Fever (TBRF)- Bartonella includes, but is not limited to, Cat Scratch Disease (CSD) and Trench Fever- Babesia, causing babesiosis- Rickettsia, causing rickettsiosis- Ehrlichiosis- Anaplasmosis
Barbara will also share her personal experience with tick-borne illness testing. Additionally, they discuss when to consider testing for Lyme and tick-borne illness, the role of conventional and herbal treatments, and offer practical advice for those seeking medical support. Tune in to learn more and get actionable steps to aid your healing journey. For more information and support, visit us over at https://thecirsgroup.com
Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer01:25 Why CIRS and chronic Tick-Borne Illnesses can happen03:00 Symptoms of acute and chronic tick borne illness 4:06 Lyme Disease cause and symptoms05:56 Bartonella or Cat Scratch Fever7:15 Babesia cause and symptoms7:47 Other tick borne infections8:30 Why tick borne illness can come up later in your treatment9:55 How do you get tick borne illness?11:55 Who is at risk for getting tick borne illnesses?13:20 How do you test for Tick-Borne Illnesses?18:32 Barbara's experience with testing for tick borne illnesses23:36 When to Consider Testing and Treatment28:25 Conclusion and join us at TheCIRSGroup.com
HELPFUL LINKS:Our interview with Dr. Peg re: tick borne treatment: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=d_KlC1KMM0rjBEo7Tick Borne testing options discussed:https://igenex.com/https://www.mdlab.com/testing/vector-borne/Labs that will handle special tick blood tests:Any Lab Tests Now: https://www.anylabtestnow.com/Clinical Pathology Laboratories: https://www.cpllabs.com/
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Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday May 21, 2025

For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
In this episode of The CIRS Group podcast, Jacie and Barbara get into dust testing for mold, discussing personal experiences and sharing expert insights. They highlight different testing methods, including why MSQ-PCR testing is better than other methods, and when to use the ERMI vs the HERSMI-2 test. They'll explain why dust testing is generally more reliable than air sampling. They'll also go over how to do dust collection properly and how to interpret mold test results. Most importantly: Jacie and Barbara recommend working with an Indoor Environmental Professional (IEP) to get a comprehensive understanding of your environment and how to properly remediate. None of this is medical advice: always consult your doctor and IEP before making any changes to your treatment plan. For more info and support, visit us at https://thecirsgroup.com
00:00 Introduction to Dust Testing00:49 Different Methods of Mold Testing02:08 Importance of MSQPCR Testing02:52 Understanding Mold Species and Air Sampling05:36 HERTSMI-2 and ERMI Tests06:54 Additional Tests: Actino and Endotoxins09:06 When to Test Your Environment13:14 How to Properly Collect Dust Samples22:01 Interpreting Your Test Results24:40 Conclusion and Resources
HELPFUL LINKS:Science behind mold testing: CIRSx talk by Bill Weber: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222/video/955676414Sequencing of remediation: CIRSx talk by Brandon Apple: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222/video/955676522ERMI test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/HERTSMI-2 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/Our Endotoxin episode: https://youtu.be/O0iKndNzfYA?si=Fe6dJQmF4ZZoutuDOur Actino episode: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM?si=OOdQp6_cgd84wVQ2Our interview with Michael Schrantz on hiring an IEP: https://youtu.be/_BEwFVdpRcY?si=DsFN5k9SL3qWZMdwOur GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=1B3MIykrvavbbqc6
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Wednesday May 14, 2025

In this episode of The CIRS Group Podcast, hosts Barbara and Jacie dig into which binders ACTUALLY WORK for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) patients. They explain what binders are, how they help in detoxifying the body, and why they are essential for those with a genetic predisposition to CIRS. The episode details the intricacies of the Shoemaker protocol, the various types of binders such as cholestyramine, Welchol, and MycoBind, and their effectiveness. They'll also talk about generic binders like charcoal and clay and why they may not work to successfully treat illness from biotoxins. They also discuss how to properly take binders, manage side effects, and track progress through symptom tracking and blood work analysis. This episode aims to provide valuable insights and practical advice for CIRS patients while stressing the importance of consulting with a certified practitioner for appropriate medical guidance. Join the hosts in demystifying the world of binders and learn how to effectively manage your health journey with CIRS.
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction to the CIRS Group Podcast00:50 What are binders?03:49 Why Shoemaker endorsed binders are best04:53 How to choose the Right Binder10:34 How to Take Binders Effectively15:52 Tracking Progress and Final Thoughts
HELPFUL LINKSResearch showing -azoles potentially causing brain atrophy:https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/TDM_metabolism_9_24_2020.pdfhttps://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/MRA_2_25_21_FINAL_Health_Risk_Assessments_from_Water_Damaged_Buildings_2_.pdfhttps://www.survivingmold.com/docs/BIBLIO_FUNGICIDE_RESISTANCE_MECHANSIMS_01_09_10.pdfhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10024029/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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