The CIRS Group Podcast
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can happen to 25% of the population and is usually triggered by a biotoxin in the environment, like mold, red tide, lyme (tick bite), and even some medical interventions. Those with CIRS are susceptible to these toxins and cannot clear them on their own. Thankfully, treatment is possible, but given that people suffering with CIRS have difficulty processing new information, we created The CIRS Group and now, this podcast, to help people better understand and identify this treatable illness. Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Along with Jacie, she co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis.
Episodes
Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about how CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, affects the brain. We can determine the effects using a special kind of MRI, called a Neuroquant. To help us explore this fun topic, we’ve invited Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres from the CIRS lab!
TIME STAMPS00:00 Introduction00:30 Welcome, Christian!01:00 What is CIRSLab?01:30 Online Workshop July 9th02:00 Coaching02:42 Christian's Academic/Professional Background03:40 Christian's CIRS Journey05:30 Christian's Academic Research and its connection to CIRS08:30 How many languages does Christian speak and why is Jacie bad at English10:07 Is the ability to learn languages nature or nurture?12:45 Intro to the Neuroquant13:00 What is CIRS?17:00 What is a Neuroquant?20:00 How long does it take to get the results?21:00 Where can you get the Neuroqant done?21:40 Can the Neuroquant determine the biotoxin you are reacting to?23:10 Neuroqant and Alzheimers 23:54 You have a tiny hippocampus jokes24:23 Neuroquant as a stand alone diagnostic tool25:15 What is the GENIE?25:36 Associations between the Neuroquant and the GENIE? 26:05 How do they diagnose CIRS using the Neuroquant?27:00 COVID and CIRS27:40 Scoring the Neuroquant29:30 We talk ignorantly about golf for too long31:40 What kind of scores do we see in CIRS patients?33:30 Why you need a qualified professional to interpret your results35:25 What changes can you expect to see in the Neuroquant after going through CIRS treatment? 37:40 VIP and changes to the brain structure40:51 Volume improvements after treatment42:10 Other benefits of VIP, including resolving PTSD43:05 VIP removes memory traces of CIRS at a neuron level45:15 Nuances to brain volume measurements48:30 Smooth brain jokes48:50 Where to find more from Christian51:10 The most chaotic outro ever
LinksCIRSLab Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/Online Workshop: https://www.instagram.com/p/CuLTGcHpqRc/Where to find the Neuroquant:https://www.survivingmold.com/mold-symptoms/neuroquant-locationsVIP Effects on the Brain:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-80873-2
Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Thursday Jun 29, 2023
Thursday Jun 29, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about tips for traveling with CIRS - choosing where to go, what to bring with you, what medications can help, and what to ask your practitioner before you go. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:1:20 Why you can be more normal after treatment2:34 Considerations for travel - make it easy4:08 Call ahead re: water damage4:53 Find out the age of the building5:36 Travel items: binders, VIP, air purifier6:18 Getting ice packs through TSA8:20 Worrying is not helpful, instead be aware9:45 Work with your practitioner on a plan11:14 Re-take the VCS test12:59 Join The CIRS Group for more resources
VCS test: https://www.vcstest.com/
Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Thursday Jun 22, 2023
Thursday Jun 22, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about Phase 5 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Repair and Restoration. This phase includes correcting MMP9, C3a and C4a, and TGF-beta 1, and taking Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide, or VIP, Spray. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:25 Phase 5: Maybe the most exciting2:00 This phase is about Repair and Restoration2:49 Correcting MMP95:43 Correcting C3a and C4a6:24 Correcting TGF-beta 18:48 VIP Spray10:13 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray12:03 Barbara’s experience with VIP Spray13:09 Why you may want to track your symptoms13:45 Reasons to join The CIRS Group
Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Monday Jun 12, 2023
Monday Jun 12, 2023
For more information, about chronic inflammatory response syndrome visit: https://thecirsgroup.com
Thank you to everyone who joined our Q&A webinar, if you are here to watch the replay, you can preview the questions using the timestamps below.
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR8Uj-d_fok
Resources Mentioned:- Judy Cho/Mike Schrantz Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmiWxtEOuH0&t=0s - CIRS Lab Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/- Dr. Dorninger's Practice: https://www.rootsandbranchesacupuncture.com- My House Makes Me Sick Haplotype Calculator: https://www.myhousemakesmesick.com/hlacalc/
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro00:25 Who we are03:10 What is The CIRS Group03:36 Should I heal my gut before healing CIRS?07:10 Can you talk about finding CIRS friendly housing and make air purifier recommendations? 08:39 Do you have to get rid of all your belongings to prevent exposure?11:40 How do you know if you have MARCoNS?13:33 Does too much detox too early cause more symptoms?16:05 Have you tried coffee enemas to help with detox?17:03 What is the difference between ERMI and HERTSMI?18:23 Small particle cleaning19:03 Do you recommend EC3 fogging after remediation? 20:57 What is the connection between dental health and CIRS?22:54 How do you find your haplotypes?23:39 How much oxalate are in the okra/beet supplements?25:10 Are CSM and Welchol the only binders that can move the needle for CIRS? 27:37 How to manage anxiety around exposure?29:05 Would you recommend a parasite cleanse?31:19 Can mosquito bites cause CIRS?32:21 How does CIRS impact metabolism?35:52 How can I feel better before starting treatment?37:55 What are high IGg allergies, what are these?39:08 What symptoms can improve after taking CSM?40:06 Can CIRS cause autoimmune issues?41:25 Can fasting help with inflammation?43:12 How concerned should we be about exposure in rivers?44:19 Is it common to have more than one CIRS haplotype?45:52 How do you deal with the impact of CIRS on social situations?49:52 What is VIP spray?51:18 How much do VIP spray and the binders cost? 51:50 Why is VIP spray the last step?52:16 How do you get rid of brain fog? How long is the protocol?54:22 Any thoughts on why some providers recommend clearing staph while others do not?55:13 What strategies help minimize exposure for you? Cleaning protocols?58:40 Outro
Thank you for joining us!
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about Phase 4 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Metabolism Repair. This phase includes detox, balancing hormones, and balancing electrolytes. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:19 Phase Four: Metabolism Repair1:00 Step One: Detox and how to handle with CIRS Treatment3:10 Liver Support3:35 Step Two: Balancing Hormones5:30 Advocate for yourself in your treatment6:33 Step Three: Balancing Electrolytes9:17 Wrap up: Phase Four can be done in tandem with other phases
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Wednesday May 31, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about Phase 3 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Toxic Load Reduction. This phase includes the binders, treating MARCoNs, and treating the gut. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:20 Barbara and Jacie’s favorite phase0:51 First step of this phase: Binders2:49 Barbara’s experience on the binders3:59 Jacie’s experience on the binders5:08 Welchol and Cholestyramine7:10 On a scale of Welchol to Phosphatidylcholine7:48 Step two of this phase: treating MARCoNs9:13 Barbara’s experience treating MARCoNs10:34 Methods of treatment and re-exposure12:33 Dogs and CIRS13:12 Test for MARCoNs before you move on to the next step14:40 Do whatever you need to do to feel better16:16 Gantt chart style treatment17:58 Outro
MARCoNs test: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/functional-tests/marcons-testingGantt Charts: https://www.smartsheet.com/s/online-gantt-chart-b
Jacie is a carnivore (since 1/1/20), certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, a carnivore (since 1/1/21) and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Tuesday May 23, 2023
Tuesday May 23, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.comToday we’re talking about the second phase of the Shoemaker Protocol, the only clinically proven way to treat CIRS or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. The second phase includes Lipid Replacement, Limbic Retraining, and removing yourself from exposure.
TIME STAMPS:0:38 The Shoemaker Protocol: Phase 2, the Foundation Phase1:50 Lipid Replacement4:10 Happy CIRSiversary to us4:28 How to do lipid replacement8:34 Limbic Retraining14:00 Stuck in a rut14:27 What can you do right now14:41 Removing yourself from exposure16:48 General hatred of Florida18:20 Removing yourself from exposure is hard, but so worth it19:55 How to test your home and/or workplace21:20 Lyme, Red Tide, Long COVID23:36 Bonus step: Do whatever it takes to feel good
DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/Gupta Program: https://www.guptaprogram.com/The Joy Plan: https://kaiaroman.com/book/Envirobiomics #7 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaaISEAI article on finding an IEP, or Indoor Environmental Professional:https://iseai.org/finding-the-right-indoor-environmental-professional-to-assess-your-home/Look up a CIRS practitioner here: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Wednesday May 17, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about the first phase of the Shoemaker Protocol: Diagnosis. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only peer-reviewed, clinically proven treatment for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka CIRS, aka Mold Illness.
TIME STAMPS:0:10 Diagnosis is the first phase of the Shoemaker Protocol1:12 Step One: Symptom Clusters2:46 Step Two: Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test5:58 Step Three: Bloodwork9:43 When you hate getting your blood drawn10:53 LapCorp or Quest? Just stick with one12:40 Why join TheCIRSGroup.com
Symptom Clusters (go to third slide):https://www.instagram.com/p/CetvZvYpc0i/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test (vcstest): https://www.vcstest.com/Judy’s mini CIRS test:https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/mini-chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testingJudy’s full CIRS test: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testing
Jacie is a 3.5 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2.5 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Thursday May 11, 2023
Thursday May 11, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Today we’re talking about genes - the genetic haplotypes that predispose you being susceptible to CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:28 Genetics aren’t good or bad
1:00 Ancestors of people with CIRS may have been genetically able to survive the black plague
3:07 Why identifying your haplotype can help your recovery and treatment
4:10 Biotoxins are biotoxins
6:16 The Dread Pirate Roberts
6:30 Recap of the various haplotypes
8:02 Genes can be turned on and off
8:45 Testing for CIRS can allow you to better protect your kids
9:25 Be the example for your family
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
Tuesday May 02, 2023
Tuesday May 02, 2023
For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
Actinos! How could something that sounds so cute be so sinister? Today we do a deep dive on this trendy new kid on the block in the CIRS world. We dig into what they are, why they matter, and what can be done to mitigate the damage they cause.
TIME STAMPS:0:35 Barbara strikes fear unnecessarily1:07 Deep dive actinos with Larry Schwartz2:00 Why actinos are trending in the CIRS space2:56 There are good and bad actinos3:37 Why your home can be worse for actinos than outside4:38 Cleanliness is key6:00 What you can do to minimize actinos7:20 Vaccum with a HEPA filter8:08 Body wash, exfoliation10:03 Ancestral practices better for people with CIRS11:10 This is just another lever to pull12:26 How to make life easier with CIRS
Link to interview with Larry Schwartz about Actinos: https://www.betterhealthguy.com/episode171
Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok