The CIRS Group Podcast

What if you can't tolerate the binders?! Detoxing from CIRS: How to mitigate side effects

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex chronic illness that requires a multi-step treatment protocol in order to heal. Today, we dive into taking binders - why take them, what kind to take, why they might cause side effects and what to do to mitigate those side effects. This is not medical advice, always consult your Shoemaker certified practitioner before making changes to your treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:22 The Intensification Monster2:03 What to expect when starting binders3:58 Why the binders might hurt at first6:27 Why binder timing matters8:35 Various binder options: CSM, welchol, okra/beet11:22 Being in exposure may cause binder side effects14:58 Low dose VIP Spray15:26 Lipid Replacement adjustment15:53 MARCoNs17:56 Histamine response / MCAS19:09 Why a Shoemaker certified practitioner is important
HELPFUL LINKS:Environment testing episode: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs?si=eGQrUHaTKzKEAtmDGENIE test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=hB35VTi1jBX3pkZQMARCoNs test episode: https://youtu.be/dWJaGdpQKrA?si=mcB8XfJC8cRyKgnz&t=469Barbara’s MARCoNs testing video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjNhakttIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Histamine/MCAS episode: https://youtu.be/mKoTPC4tBpQ?si=MZ6RB1BFbLpbKy1R&t=1140Find a Shoemaker Certified Practitioner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitionersor a Certified Proficiency Partner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Can peptides reverse brain atrophy? Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides can! VIP Spray for CIRS

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
 
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that affects a quarter of the population (they just might not know it yet). Today, we tackle the very last step of the only clinically proven path to healing CIRS, Shoemaker Protocol, which is Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides, or VIP Spray. VIP Spray is amazing, in that it helps the brain return to normal after inflammation and atrophy caused by CIRS. We dig into the details on how it works, when to use it, and what to expect when using it. This is not medical advice, talk to your doctor to figure out what’s right for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
 
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:00 The purpose of VIP Spray within the Shoemaker Protocol
2:17 What is VIP or Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide
2:28 VIP blood test
4:00 Why get a NeuroQuant before and after VIP Spray
5:18 The cost of VIP Spray
6:00 Titration and administration of VIP Spray
7:40 Considerations for storing VIP Spray
8:20 Cheaper option for VIP Spray
8:58 The potential risks of VIP Spray
10:55 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray
13:00 Using VIP to better tolerate the binders
15:20 Barbara’s VIP Spray
 
HELPFUL LINKS:
Genie test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=WL_s_yXIpEh_f4uj
NeuroQuant episode: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=YkTgroEapsSFWSGw
Cheaper option to purchase VIP Spray (to mix yourself): https://www.montroserx.com/
 
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Are you healing from CIRS on easy mode, or are you making it harder on yourself?

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a complex treatment plan. It can be difficult to attain the level of perfection your doctor may require for you to heal. Today we tackle ways to not let perfect be the enemy of good, and hopefully give you some ideas to “still live your life” while you’re trying to heal. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:03 Perfect vs real life2:15 Location: dry vs humid climates6:58 Cleaning: Minimalism vs Maximalism10:40 Diet: Carnivore vs Standard American diet12:10 Efficiency of treatment through testing
HELPFUL LINKS:Episode on best way of eating with CIRS: https://youtu.be/jln8kKR5PiEEpisode on environment testing: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Long waitlists for expensive doctors? Here's what you can do cheaply to feel better NOW with CIRS

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that usually requires costly treatment and remediation. Insurance rarely covers it, and because CIRS can cause us to work less (or less optimally) it turns into a bad cycle. This is why we’ve tackled today’s topic: What you can do for as little money as possible now, while you wait to save up for your first appointment with a CIRS literate practitioner. This episode focuses on OTC options and lifestyle changes you can do, not as a replacement for treatment, but as a way to feel as good as you can before starting treatment. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:27 How to get pretty darn sure of your diagnosis cheaply4:41 How to eat and supplement while you wait to see a doctor8:00 Remove yourself from exposure:8:38 How to “cheaply” improve levels of mold, actinos, endos11:00 Hidden areas toxins can hide: Fridge, Washing Machine, Drains13:49 Consider moving, and environment testing14:38 Lyme15:57 COVID and vaccines19:11 Histamine issues and MCAS19:57 Things to remove: IUDs, birth control, Implants, botox21:58 Things to add to your life: Sun, movement, sleep
HELPFUL LINKS:Two options for taking the VCS test:https://www.vcstest.com/https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/visual-contrast-sensitivity-vcsSymptom clusters on third slide here: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2rhdMUMjwr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==History of exposure options on first page: https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=a58887261996f4f05&q=https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/KJohnson_CIRS_ESSAY.PDF&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjwqd-oj9mEAxVsBEQIHSbmCQQQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2euIEAyOFCdRuaLQcUT6bGOmaprem supplements: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/inflammation/omaprem-spm-fatty-acidsEnvirobiomics test most often recommended by CIRS doctors: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaaDr. Peg DeTulio, Lyme specialist: https://regenixhealing.com/home-pageCOVID episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=-Iw1G6AcAtevp6uzSurviving Mold write up COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-articleFLCCC protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Long COVID? You might actually have CIRS! Is COVID is the new BIOTOXIN?

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
 
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is often caused by environmentally based biotoxins like mold, bacteria, and sewage. Less talked about are the co-infections that might reside IN you, like Lyme, dental infections, IUDs, implants, some vaccinations, and now the newest one: COVID-19 as well as the vaccine for COVID. Today, we dig into Jacie’s experience with vaccine and COVID exposure and the protocol she had to do on top of the Shoemaker Protocol to fully heal from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
 
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Jacie and Barbara’s experience with COVID
3:15 Disclaimer
3:36 Surviving Mold has identified COVID as a biotoxin
4:37 Jacie’s exposure to the COVID vaccine
6:31 Spike Protein Damage Protocols
8:13 CIRS Co-Infections
11:39 TheCIRSGroup.com member experience
 
HELPFUL LINKS:
SurvingMold.com article/study on COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article
FLCCC Alliance protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
 
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
 

Can eating Carnivore hurt you?! What carbs are safe? How to eat when you have CIRS, or mold illness

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that attacks multiple systems in the body, including the metabolism of energy and digestion of food. The fun side effects can include stubborn weight gain, histamine issues, GI issues, fatigue, and cognitive issues from lack of energy. Today, we’ll dig into why that is and ways of eating you may want to try to help yourself along this complicated healing journey. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:52 Our qualifications2:45 Our experience with CIRS and carnivore4:09 Carnivoring harder is not the answer6:32 Carnivore as a band-aid8:04 How to eat for CIRS8:40 Why do an elimination diet10:15 Hypometabolism and difficulty with ketosis11:50 GI Issues: why digestive enzymes, butyrate don’t always work15:01 Low-Amylose, low-mold, AIP diets lead to carnivore17:07 Why carnivore/keto may not always work for CIRS21:05 Eat the meat you like, can afford, and makes you feel your best22:00 How to experiment with carbs23:10 Weight loss difficulty with CIRS25:27 Muscle gain difficulty with CIRS26:33 Leptin resistance28:20 Hypometabolism and gluconeogenesis29:19 Mobilizing fat stores can cause worsening symptoms
HELPFUL LINKS:Resource from Dr. Shoemaker on ways to eat to support healing on this protocol: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/week-of-may-8-2023
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

CIRS then and now: TheCIRSGroup.com podcast turns 1 and celebrates FIFTY episodes!

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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we celebrate FIFTY EPISODES of TheCIRSGroup.com podcast. To celebrate, we offer a retrospective of how far CIRS has come even in the short time we’ve known about it (two years) and where we see it going from here. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
 
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:50 When we were first diagnosed vs now
3:50 Judy Cho’s pivotal role in CIRS awareness
5:00 Jordan Peterson interview w/Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon
7:29 Growing pains in the CIRS space
8:54 CIRSx conference
12:08 TheCIRSGroup.com - then and now
HELPFUL LINKS:
Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/
Judy’s most impactful interview for CIRS awareness: https://youtu.be/-xt-0yJBGTs?si=euJXvOUQ5EcCmPGY
Jordan Peterson interview with Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon: https://youtu.be/LGG7om1hHcU?si=vX2lnk4eMg8oM1n6
CIRSx recap episodes (playlist): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtFmHRLGI2wHK62Iq4qOQqkxAwE9lkdpZ
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
 
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
 

What if your gym, car, or job are keeping you sick? Potential exposure sources outside the home

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we are tackling a viewer request: other exposure sources besides homes. We’ll talk about what to do if you suspect one of these sources might be keeping you sick: your workplace, gym, salon, roommates, loved ones, and even your pets! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:36 The first step of the Shoemaker Protocol: remove exposure1:29 Workplace exposure3:40 Changing jobs or starting a business as an option5:56 Vehicle exposure8:20 Errands, hobbies, salons, gyms11:18 Other people: roommates, spouses, family, friends13:17 Pets, animals
HELPFUL LINKS (NOT affiliate!):ZeroRez for car and carpet cleaning: https://www.zerorez.com/Defense soap: https://a.co/d/gJj76k4Defense soap wipes: https://a.co/d/gAjtCp8Tea Tree wipes: https://a.co/d/3xrcotbWipes for dogs: https://a.co/d/8y6uZj8Study on Staph and dogs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/Episode we did on dogs w/CIRS: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=n1gj6jNkl4Bf1GIUShoemaker’s advice on treatment of dogs: https://www.survivingmold.com/physicians/dashboard/previous-membership-section-questions-and-answers
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Change your brain to change your health: Limbic retraining explained

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is taxing on your body, mind, and spirit. To fully heal from this chronic condition, you need to attack it on all fronts. Today, we’re tackling the mind: Limbic retraining, or rewiring your brain, can actually reduce symptoms and get your mind out of fight or flight and into a relaxed state, primed for healing and wellness. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:43 Jacie’s passion for limbic retraining3:05 Permission to wait until you’re ready3:53 Limbic retraining is part of a holistic approach4:56 What is Limbic Retraining?8:14 Things that limbic retraining can improve:8:30 Mood regulation8:50 Fearing the gene or the biotoxins9:59 Believe you can heal, desire to heal10:44 Improving histamine responses11:10 Get a better baseline, resilience11:50 Ways of implementing limbic retraining
HELPFUL LINKS:The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science: https://a.co/d/gSN9SYkDNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/Gupta: https://guptaprogram.com/Wired4Healing, where Jacie leads classes: https://wired4healing.com/Nutrition with Judy’s Mind Body program: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/nwj-mind-body-programThe Joy Plan by Kaia Roman: https://a.co/d/gn5Nyg2Join The CIRS Group for limbic retraining support: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Big Pharma helps? Sometimes! Prescription medications that help you heal from CIRS or mold illness

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness but thankfully certain prescription medications can actually help you heal from it. The medications we discuss today are all used by various Shoemaker certified practitioners for their patients with CIRS. If you are interested in any of these medications, check with your practitioner to see if it might work for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:25 Biotoxin Binders: Cholestyramine, Welchol4:53 Consideration for binder reactivity, and non-prescription option6:00 MARCoNs treatments: BEG, EDTA, Xlear, Silver8:46 MARCoNs spray for treatment in dogs10:54 VIP spray14:35 Low Dose Naltrexone for pain and low mood16:11 Cromolyn for MCAS or histamine issues
HELPFUL LINKS (not affiliate!):Mycobind: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/immune-support/mycobindXlear: https://a.co/d/gosaTiVXlear with Coptis: https://waldenfarmacy.com/product/coptis-nasal-spray/Argentyn 23: https://a.co/d/ejtPaGNACS spray: https://a.co/d/3sEVpSwDogs and CIRS episode: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=dmiX7m76pC0ZhRjeGENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=FsbE1cddXvBoFZds
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok